contention

The prevalence of a spirit of contention amongst a people is a certain sign of deadness with respect to the things of religion. When men's spirits are hot with contention, they are cold to religion. - Jonathan Edwards “The Book of Mormon does not supplant the Bible. It expands, extends, clarifies, and amplifies our knowledge of the Savior. Surely, this second witness should be cause for great rejoicing by all Christians.” - Joseph B. Wirthlin

Tuesday, April 25, 2023

Compare the fruits of good and evil

Tucker Carlson spelled it out clearly in this 6 minute excerpt from his last speech.


Transcript:

22:16 if you want to know what's evil and what's good, what are the characteristics of those? 

And by the way you know I think the Athenians would have agreed with this, this is not necessarily just a Christian notion, this is kind of a, let's say, widely agreed upon understanding of Good and Evil.

What are its products? 
What do these two conditions produce?
Good is characterized by 
order
calmness
tranquility
peace
whatever you want to call it lack of conflict
cleanliness (cleanliness is Next to Godliness, it's true it is).

And evil is characterized by their opposites.
violence
hate
disorder
division
disorganization
and filth

So if you are all in on the things that produce the latter basket of outcomes what you're really advocating for is evil. 
That's just true.
I'm not going for a religious war, far from it. I'm merely calling for an acknowledgment of what we're watching.

Full speech on youtube.


transcript of excerpt:

it might be time to start to reassess
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the terms we use to to describe what
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we're watching so when I started
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Heritage the presumption was and this is
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a very anglo-american assumption that
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the debates we're having are kind of
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rational debates about the way to get to
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mutually agreed upon outcomes
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right so like we all want the country to
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be more prosperous and free and people
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to be less oppressed or whatever and so
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we're going to argue about tax rates and
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I think higher tax gets gets us there on
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Keynesian and you disagree you're an
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Austrian or whatever
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but the objective is the same
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and so we write our papers and they
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write their papers and made the best
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papers when
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I I don't think that's what we're
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watching now at all I don't think we're
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watching a debate over how to get to the
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best outcome
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I think that's completely wrong
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and I've come to this conclusion and I
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should say at the outside of an
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Episcopalian so don't take any
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theological advice from me because I
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don't have any
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I grew up in the shallowest Faith
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tradition that's ever been invented
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it's not even a Christian religion at
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this point
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um I say with shame but
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I'm just saying this is an observer of
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what's going on there is no way to
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assess say the transgenderist movement
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with that mindset policy papers don't
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account for it at all
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if you have people who are saying I have
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an idea let's castrate the Next
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Generation what sexually mutilate
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children sorry that's not a political
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debate what there's nothing to do with
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politics what's the outcome we're
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Desiring here
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an androgynous population is that really
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what we are we arguing for that
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I don't I don't think anyone could like
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defend that as a positive outcome but
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the weight of the government and you
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know a lot of corporate interests are
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behind that well what is that well it's
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irrational
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if you say well you know I think
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abortion is always bad well I think
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sometimes it's necessary that's a debate
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I'm familiar with
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but if you're telling me that abortion
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is a positive good
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what are you saying well you're arguing
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for child sacrifice obviously it's not
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about like oh a team you know a teen
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girl gets pregnant and what do we do
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about that and
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victims of rape I you know I get it of
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course I understand that and I have
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compassion for everyone involved but
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when the treasury secretary stands up
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and says you know what you can do to
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help the economy get an abortion
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well that's like an Aztec principle
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actually
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there's not a society in history that
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didn't practice human sacrifice not one
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I checked
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even the Scandinavians I'm ashamed to
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say it wasn't just the mesoamericans it
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was everybody
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so like that's what that is
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what's the point of child sacrifice well
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there's no policy goal entwined with
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that no that's a theological phenomenon
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and that's kind of the point I'm making
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none of this makes sense in conventional
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political terms when people or crowds of
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people or the largest crowd of people at
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all which is the federal government
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the largest human organization in human
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history
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decide that the goal is to destroy
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things Destruction for its own sake hey
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let's tear it down
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what you're watching is not a political
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movement
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it's evil
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so if you want to assess and I'll put it
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in on and I'll stop with this I'll put
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it in on
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pull it I'll put it in non-political or
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non-roth or non
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-specific theological terms and just say
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if you want to know what's evil and
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what's good what are the characteristics
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of those and by the way you know I think
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the Athenians would have agreed with
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this this is not necessarily just a
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Christian notion this is kind of a let's
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say widely agreed upon understanding of
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Good and Evil what are its
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products what are these two conditions
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produce
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well I mean good is characterized by
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order
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calmness Tranquility peace whatever you
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want to call it lack of conflict
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cleanliness
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cleanliness is Next to Godliness
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it's true it is
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and evil is characterized by their
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opposites
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violence hate disorder division
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disorganization and filth
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so if you are all in on the things that
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produce the latter basket of outcomes
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what you're really advocating for is
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evil that's just true I'm not going for
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a religious War far from it I'm merely
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calling for an acknowledgment of what
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we're watching which is not one and I'm
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not certainly not backing the Republican
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party I mean look
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I'm not making a partisan point at all
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I'm I'm just noting what's super obvious
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like those of us who were in our mid 50s
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are caught in the past in the way that
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we think about this one side's like no
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you know I've got this idea
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and we've got this idea and let's have a
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debate about our ideas they don't want a
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debate
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those ideas won't produce outcomes that
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any rational person would want under any
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circumstances
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those are manifestations of some larger
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force acting upon us
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it's just so obvious
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it's completely obvious
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and I think two things one
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we should say that
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and stop engaging in these totally
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fraudulent debates
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where we are using the terms that we
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used in 1991 when I started at Heritage
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as if maybe you know I could just win
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the debate if I marshaled more facts
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I've tried that doesn't work
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and two maybe we should all take just
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like 10 minutes a day to say a prayer
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about it
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I'm serious like why not
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and I'm saying that to you not as some
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kind of evangelist I'm literally saying
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that to you as an Episcopalian the
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Samaritans of our time
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I'm coming to you from the most humble
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and lowly theological position you can
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I'm literally an Episcopalian okay
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and even I have concluded it might be
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worth taking just 10 minutes out of your
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busy schedule to say a prayer for the
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future and I hope you will

Monday, April 24, 2023

Outstanding video on unity in the Gospel

This is a powerful message for everyone, Latter-day Saint, Evangelical, or anyone else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rY7yFuiSnQ

5:59 it is a very sad story actually but it has a happy ending okay because of you and because of Joseph Smith because of Brigham Young and because of the restoration that you are part of and might not even know how precious it is because you've been born and raised in it.

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8:03 the sad truth is evangelical Christianity is filled with an accusatory fog.

In the Book of Mormon they call it a Mist Of Darkness but it's an accusatory fog, a fog of accusation against the most beautiful thing on earth--against a restoration--against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

There's an accusatory fog that dismisses the Latter-Day Saints as just not even being Christians, having a different Jesus a different God. You've all heard this kind of thing and and it's the unquestioned monolithic conversation of Evangelical Christianity to the point that I heard or participated in conversations of this sort hundreds of times over almost half a century.

And never once did I hear one voice raised in opposition to that fog of accusation... 

Going around in circles, dying of thirst in the desert for what you have and I never even thought of visiting a Mormon a Latter-Day Saint Church.

I had all sorts of encounters with Latter-day Saints and they were uniformly, you all were like really nice but that was just proof of how really evil you were! Because if you're so evil you can appear nice, boy, that's really dangerous you know. 

I mean this is, it's bizarre, it's absolutely bizarre but I'm dying of thirst in the desert and you know the Earth is being flooded with darkness and the Ark of God is right in front of me hiding in plain sight and I can't even see it 

Friday, April 21, 2023

Welcoming dialogue about disagreements

Jacob Hess wrote an important article titled "Perspective: Scholarship that takes the sacred seriously: My 4 take-aways from a BYU conference exploring how it would change academic disciplines to draw upon gospel teachings as foundational"

It is well worth reading.

https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2023/4/20/23688354/byu-conference-highlights-scholarship

The excerpt below pertains to the subject of this blog; i.e., welcoming dialogue about disagreements:

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3. Welcoming dialogue about disagreements

Students in various academic contexts are increasingly worried about raising religious or other views that might be perceived as controversial. Some fear that standing up for increasingly countercultural religious ideas necessarily means “driving wedges.” Professor Stephen Yanchar noted how even raising honest questions a la critical thinking “has a reputation of being an attack.” 

But he insisted this work of grappling over truth on college campuses, religious or not, can all be “loving, kind and gentle — a part of relationship building.” ...

The fact that profound disagreements have become so scary at universities — the very place dedicated to hashing out different perspectives in a search for truth — highlights the unique opportunity to model a different way, perhaps especially at a place like BYU with a greater political balance than many other college campuses.

“Yes, people will disagree … and we can talk. But at least we’ll be having the discussions,” said Williams, who has spent his career encouraging a deeper conversation about unquestioned assumptions in psychology. “What could be more important than having these conversations with fellow believers in a spirit of respect and love?” 

...

“Those who fear” this kind of searching dialogue, Yanchar suggested, “have overstated its dangers.”

Thursday, April 20, 2023

the right to differ from other men

 

Brigham Young, "SAINTS SUBJECT TO TEMPTATION".

A Discourse by President Brigham Young, Delivered in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, April 17, 1853.

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We talk about true riches—about the eternal attributes of the Deity—and about that which He has given to the children of men. I also heard something said the other day about sanctification. This doctrine I heard taught many years ago, and I perceive that men do not fully understand these  principles; even the best of the Latter-day Saints have but a faint idea of the attributes of the Deity.

Were the former and Latter-day Saints, with their Apostles, Prophets, Seers, and Revelators collected together to discuss this matter, I am led to think there would be found a great variety in their views and feelings upon this subject without direct revelation from the Lord. It is as much my right to differ from other men, as it is theirs to differ from me, in points of doctrine and principle, when our minds cannot at once arrive at the same conclusion. I feel it sometimes very difficult indeed to word my thoughts as they exist in my own mind, which, I presume, is the grand cause of many apparent differences in sentiment which may exist among the Saints.

What I consider to be virtue, and the only principle of virtue there is, is to do the will of our Father in heaven. That is the only virtue I wish to know. I do not recognize any other virtue than to do what the Lord Almighty requires of me from day to day. In this sense virtue embraces all good; it branches out into every avenue of mortal life, passes through the ranks of the sanctified in heaven, and makes its throne in the breast of the Deity. When the Lord commands the people, let them obey. That is virtue.

The same principle will embrace what is called sanctification. When the will, passions, and feelings of a person are perfectly submissive to God and His requirements, that person is sanctified. It is for my will to be swallowed up in the will of God, that will lead me into all good, and crown me ultimately with immortality and eternal lives.

(1850s1853, Brigham Young, Saints ¶13–16 • JD 2:122–JD 2:123)


Wednesday, April 19, 2023

Have fun

Life is too short to worry about stupid things. Have fun. Regret nothing, and don't let people bring you down. Study, think, create, and grow. Teach yourself and teach others.

Tuesday, April 18, 2023

Signs of intelligence

One of the signs of intelligence is to be able to accept the facts without being offended.

Monday, April 17, 2023

Germ theory


Scientist who discovered that hand washing dramatically reduces mortality during child birth was ridiculed by his colleagues and then committed to an insane asylum, where he was beaten and then died 14 days later.